Counselor: Beyond Conventional Defense
Counselor: Beyond Conventional Defense challenges the traditional approach to criminal defense. Hosted by attorney William Pernik and Kevin Rosenquist, this podcast goes deeper into trauma, recovery, and the human stories that fuel transformation. It’s a show for people impacted by the justice system, for families seeking hope, and for legal professionals who believe in real, systemic change.
Episodes

Thursday Nov 27, 2025
Thursday Nov 27, 2025
In this compelling episode, two attorneys discuss the frustrations of inadequate legal representation and their dedication to providing assistance. They share personal stories that highlight the importance of quality legal help for families. This conversation emphasizes the critical need for a reliable law firm, ensuring that everyone has access to sound legal advice and compassionate representation. I never wanted to be a lawyer. But life has a way of pulling you toward the place you’re meant to be. My journey began with my brother’s legal troubles — an experience that exposed me to the painful reality of bad legal representation. Watching my family suffer because of a negligent attorney changed everything. It made me realize that no family should ever go through that again. That purpose is what led me into criminal defense. In this video, I sit down with my friend Emily Kohler to share the stories that shaped our careers in law. Together, we talk about the paths that brought us into the legal field, the emotional weight that comes with this profession, and the high-stakes responsibility that criminal defense attorneys carry every day. We look back on our time in Tulare County, where we were trained by incredible mentors and confronted the raw realities of the justice system. We discuss why understanding a client’s background and mental health is essential, and why our work is about so much more than winning cases — it’s about changing lives. If you’re considering a future in law, navigating your own legal career, or simply curious about what criminal defense looks like behind the scenes, this conversation offers an honest and powerful look into the heart of what we do. Together, we can ensure no family suffers from bad representation ever again.

Monday Nov 10, 2025
Monday Nov 10, 2025
This episode highlights the challenges veterans face, including PTSD and substance abuse problems. It addresses the frustration when legal aid is insufficient and stresses the need for trust. By offering therapy and support, the aim is to reduce recidivism and address mental health issues.
In this episode of Counselor: Beyond Conventional Defense, attorney William Pernik explores the unique struggles faced by veterans and military clients navigating the justice system. He sheds light on how a trauma-informed defense approach can change outcomes, restore dignity, and promote true rehabilitation.
Learn about California’s Military Diversion (Section 1001.80) and Veterans Treatment Court (Section 1170.9) — programs designed to help veterans address the root causes of their legal troubles through therapy, mentorship, and community support.
William also discusses the resistance some veterans have toward treatment, the power of peer mentorship, and the real success stories from veterans who have turned their lives around. This episode is a call to action — for attorneys, judges, and advocates to work together to ensure no veteran is left behind.
If you’re a veteran or know someone who is, remember: seeking help is a sign of strength, not weakness. There are resources and communities ready to support you — you are not alone.
Subscribe to Counselor: Beyond Conventional Defense to hear more stories of advocacy, resilience, and real change in the justice system.
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Monday Nov 03, 2025
Monday Nov 03, 2025
Most people think probation means freedom — until one mistake sends them right back to jail. ⚖️In this episode, defense lawyer William V. Pernik breaks down how to navigate the legal process, avoid violations, and find success within the criminal justice system. Learn how to survive probation, work effectively with your probation officer, and turn this challenge into a real second chance. 💡
What exactly is probation, and how does it differ from other forms of sentencing in the criminal justice system? This short highlights the importance of addressing underlying issues, especially when navigating the legal process. Discover how a real plan and demonstrable progress can influence judicial discretion for clients, as well as the importance of mental health. #CounselorPodcast #WilliamPernik #BeyondConventionalDefense
Probation isn’t punishment — it’s a second chance.In this episode of Counselor: Beyond Conventional Defense, California criminal defense attorney William V. Pernik explains what probation really means, how to stay compliant, and how to turn this challenging period into a meaningful path toward rehabilitation.
Many people misunderstand probation or see their probation officers as adversaries, which often leads to violations and setbacks. William shares practical insights on how to navigate probation effectively, communicate with officers, and address the root causes of criminal behavior.
Whether you’re on probation yourself, supporting someone who is, or working within the justice system, this conversation will help you understand how to build trust, take accountability, and move forward with confidence.
What probation really is (and what it’s not)✅ The most common probation violations and how to avoid them✅ How to communicate effectively with your probation officer✅ What causes most violations — and how to prevent them✅ How attorneys can guide clients through probation successfully✅ How to turn probation into a second chance, not a setback
🎧 Watch now and learn how to stay on track, rebuild trust, and transform probation into a step toward lasting change.
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Monday Oct 27, 2025
Monday Oct 27, 2025
Having honest, open conversations is key, especially with younger clients. Effective communication strategies and planning can build stronger relationships. Understanding what drives people allows for better service and support.
How I defend young offenders and help youth reclaim their future — real stories of second chances, justice, and redemption. Every young person deserves a second chance — someone who believes in them even when the system doesn’t.
In this episode of Counselor: Beyond Conventional Defense, I share my approach as a criminal defense lawyer working with young offenders — how honest, open conversations can change the course of a young person’s life. As an immigrant and defense attorney, I’ve seen the power of empathy and understanding in helping youth rebuild their future. I open up about my own experiences, the importance of connecting with clients on a human level, and how we can make real change in the youth justice system. This conversation isn’t just about the law — it’s about redemption, rehabilitation, and the belief that no one is defined by their worst mistake.
Together, we can help young people rise above their past and fight for a better tomorrow. — 🎙️ Counselor: Beyond Conventional Defense Hosted by William Pernik, Criminal Defense Attorney | California

Friday Oct 17, 2025
Friday Oct 17, 2025
Counselor: Beyond Conventional Defense — hosted by William Pernik, one of California’s leading defense attorneys and founder of the Law Offices of William V. Pernik, explores the untold stories behind the fight for justice. In this episode, we dive deep into Alex’s powerful transformation — from being a young man unjustly stopped by police to becoming a public defender driven to challenge systemic injustice. What began as a painful encounter with law enforcement became a defining moment that shaped his purpose: defending the accused and holding systems accountable. Alex opens up about: His personal experience with unlawful police stops The emotional aftermath that led him to study law How his past fuels his courtroom advocacy The role of empathy, culture, and relatability in defending marginalized clients The daily struggles of rehabilitation, recidivism, and rebuilding trust in the justice system This conversation goes beyond legal theory — it’s about human experience, resilience, and the power of representation. Whether you’re a law student, attorney, or simply passionate about criminal justice reform, this podcast challenges how we view the defense profession.
🎧 Tune in, share your thoughts, and join the conversation about what it truly means to go beyond conventional defense.

Friday Oct 03, 2025
Friday Oct 03, 2025
In this episode of Counselor: Beyond Conventional Defense, California defense attorney William Pernik sits down with longtime friend Alex Martin for a powerful and honest discussion about the often-overlooked emotional toll of practicing criminal defense.
They explore the ideological divides among defense attorneys, the challenges of working with at-risk youth influenced by gangs and substance abuse, and the question every lawyer must ask: Are we truly helping our clients, or just fulfilling our legal duties?
With stories drawn from personal experience, William and Alex examine the immigrant experience, the struggle for belonging, and the complex role of authority in shaping young lives. This conversation is both a reflection on the human side of law and a call for attorneys to act as true counselors—not just lawyers.
Whether you’re a practicing attorney, law student, or simply interested in the realities of the justice system, this episode will leave you with a deeper understanding of what it means to defend, guide, and truly care for clients.

Tuesday Sep 09, 2025
Tuesday Sep 09, 2025
Welcome to Counselor, Beyond Conventional Defense — the podcast that redefines how we look at the justice system. In this powerful episode, Attorney William Pernik of the Law Offices of William V. Pernik breaks down the shocking truth about DUI charges in California — and why the wrong defense could cost you everything.
👉 Did you know a DUI conviction in California could mean 48 hours in jail at minimum… and in some extreme cases, even a life sentence? The stakes are higher than most people realize, and understanding your options can make the difference between prison time and a second chance.
🚔 Criminal defense attorney William Pernik, known for his holistic and unconventional approach to defense, shares insider strategies, real-life client stories, and groundbreaking methods that challenge the traditional legal system. From a near life-sentence DUI case to helping clients overcome addiction through treatment, William shows how justice can be about more than punishment — it can be about transformation.
Whether you’re facing your first DUI, multiple offenses, or simply want to understand how the California justice system really works, this episode is packed with insights that could save your freedom — and your future.
🔥 Don’t miss this episode — it could literally change your life. Subscribe to Counselor, Beyond Conventional Defense and join the movement to rethink criminal defense in California and beyond.
⏱️ Timestamps:
00:00:00 - Introduction
00:00:35 - Understanding DUI Charges and Penalties
00:03:58 - Conventional Approach to DUI Cases
00:06:48 - Real-life Case Example: Conventional Approach
00:14:51 - Unconventional Approach to DUI Cases
00:15:12 - Real-life Case Example: Unconventional Approach - Police Officer
00:16:39 - Real-life Case Example: Unconventional Approach - Gina
00:20:18 - Conclusion and Closing Remarks
⚖️ Featuring: William Pernik, Attorney at Law
📍 Law Offices of William V. Pernik | California Criminal Defense
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👉 If you or someone you know is facing DUI charges, don’t wait — contact the Law Offices of William V. Pernik today
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Tuesday Sep 02, 2025
Tuesday Sep 02, 2025
Domestic violence charges in California carry life-changing consequences—fines, counseling, restraining orders, loss of custody, and even constitutional rights. In this powerful episode of Counselor: Beyond Conventional Defense, attorney William Pernik of the Law Offices of William V. Pernik reveals how he takes on domestic violence cases with a groundbreaking approach that goes far beyond the typical courtroom strategy.
Unlike traditional defenses that often stop at the surface, William Pernik digs deeper into the root causes of conflict—whether it’s relationship struggles, communication breakdowns, mental health, or substance abuse. By addressing these underlying issues, his defense strategy not only protects his clients in court but also helps transform their personal lives for the better.
William shares compelling stories, including a remarkable case involving a police officer where his alternative defense led not to destruction, but to healing, reconciliation, and the dismissal of charges. This episode challenges the way California courts and communities think about justice, accountability, and second chances.
👉 If you or someone you know is facing domestic violence charges in California, this conversation could change everything.
👉 Don’t forget to like, share, and subscribe to Counselor: Beyond Conventional Defense for more groundbreaking discussions that media outlets, legal professionals, and everyday Californians can’t afford to miss.
⏱ Timestamps:
00:00:00 - Introduction
00:00:45 - Understanding Domestic Violence Charges
00:01:28 - Impacts of Domestic Violence Convictions
00:04:06 - Consequences on Personal and Professional Life
00:06:32 - Understanding Conventional Defense in Domestic Violence Cases
00:09:38 - Types of Conventional Defenses
00:10:44 - Unconventional Defenses
00:14:13 - Beyond Conventional Defense Approach
00:15:10 - Exploring Underlying Issues in Domestic Violence Cases
00:16:42 - The Consequences of Conventional Defense
00:18:37 - Alternative Approach to Domestic Violence Cases
00:19:21 - Case Study: A Police Officer Involved in Domestic Violence
00:24:24 - Closing Remarks

Monday Aug 25, 2025
Monday Aug 25, 2025
Welcome to Counselor: Beyond Conventional Defense with William Pernik, criminal defense attorney and advocate for holistic, client-centered legal representation. In this episode, William breaks down one of the most transformative opportunities in criminal defense today: Mental Health Diversion. This program offers eligible individuals the chance to pause their criminal case, undergo treatment and supervision, and—upon successful completion—have their charges dismissed entirely.William explains who qualifies, the benefits and challenges of the program, why some attorneys hesitate to use it, and the life-changing results it can produce when done right. He also shares real-world success stories and provides guidance on how clients and their families can advocate for this powerful alternative to traditional prosecution.Timestamps:
00:00:00 – Introduction
00:00:33 – Understanding Mental Health Diversion
00:01:45 – Ideal Candidates for Mental Health Diversion
00:05:34 – Benefits of Mental Health Diversion
00:06:21 – Challenges and Considerations in Mental Health Diversion
00:08:04 – Understanding the Commitment Required for Mental Health Diversion
00:10:01 – Why Some Lawyers Avoid Mental Health Diversion
00:13:52 – Success Stories of Mental Health Diversion
00:15:08 – The Impact of Mental Health Diversion on Clients
00:15:54 – Using Mental Health Diversion as a Tool
00:16:03 – The Role of Treatment in Legal Representation
00:17:31 – The Limitations of Mental Health Diversion
00:18:39 – Closing Remarks and Contact InformationWhat is Mental Health Diversion, and why does it matter? It’s an alternative legal pathway for defendants whose crimes stem from mental health or substance use issues. Instead of heading straight toward a conviction, qualifying individuals enter treatment, follow a structured plan, and—if successful—emerge with a clean slate. Who benefits from this approach? Those willing to commit to treatment, follow strict supervision, and address the root causes of their legal troubles. It’s not a shortcut—it’s a second chance that requires dedication and personal growth.Why isn’t it used more often? William explains the misconceptions among attorneys, the added work required to implement it, and why many lawyers stick to traditional defense strategies—even when diversion might serve their client better.Real Change, Real Lives From clients overcoming long-term addiction to individuals repairing family relationships, William shares how Mental Health Diversion has rewritten the stories of people who once felt trapped by the justice system.Challenges & Limitations It’s not for everyone. William discusses when diversion may fall short, the situations where it’s less effective, and how to set realistic expectations.Tune in to learn: Who qualifies for Mental Health Diversion and how to apply The legal and personal benefits of completing the program Common challenges and how to overcome them Why some attorneys avoid this option—and why you shouldn’t How this program can heal individuals, families, and communities This episode is a must-listen for defendants, families, and advocates seeking compassionate, effective alternatives to traditional prosecution.

Monday Aug 18, 2025
Monday Aug 18, 2025
Welcome to Counselor: Beyond Conventional Defense with William Pernik, criminal defense attorney and advocate for holistic, client-centered legal representation. In this episode, William pulls back the curtain on his unconventional approach to defending clients facing drug charges — a strategy that blends legal skill, psychological insight, and a deep understanding of addiction and mental health.Why rethink how we defend drug cases? Traditional criminal defense often focuses solely on fighting the evidence or negotiating plea deals. William believes that approach overlooks the deeper issues driving many drug-related offenses, such as untreated addiction, trauma, and mental illness. Addressing these root causes can lead to not only better legal outcomes, but also lasting personal transformation. Conventional vs. Unconventional Defense Conventional Approach: Focused primarily on legal tactics and courtroom battles. Unconventional / Counselor Model: Integrates rehabilitation resources, mental health support, and tailored legal strategies to address the why behind the charges. William champions a Counselor Model that views the lawyer as both advocate and trusted advisor — someone who helps clients navigate life’s challenges while defending their rights in court. The Role of Mental Health & Addiction in the Justice System Many defendants in drug cases are battling issues far beyond the courtroom. William’s approach connects clients to counseling, treatment programs, and community resources, turning the legal process into an opportunity for healing rather than just punishment.Why This Matters for Society By focusing on rehabilitation, this approach can reduce recidivism, strengthen communities, and create a justice system that prioritizes public safety through positive change.Government Policy & Drug Laws William also dives into how current drug policies and sentencing practices often fail to address addiction effectively — and how legal reforms could create more equitable, results-driven outcomes.Tune in to learn: How the Counselor Model applies to drug-related cases Why addressing mental health leads to better legal results The benefits of intense supervision and evidence-based rehabilitation How unconventional strategies can reduce repeat offenses What needs to change in our current drug laws and policies ⏱ TIMESTAMPS:
00:00:00 – Introduction
00:00:36 – Understanding the Unconventional Approach
00:04:00 – Challenges of the Unconventional Approach
00:04:11 – Conventional vs Unconventional Approach
00:11:18 – The Need for a Better Legal System
00:15:01 – Conclusion
00:15:07 – Discussing Government Policy and Drug Laws
00:15:52 – Mental Health Diversion Statute
00:16:40 – Benefits of Intense Supervision and Scientific Approach
00:17:06 – Comparing Conventional Probation and New Approach
00:17:55 – Positive Impact on Society and Individuals
00:18:32 – Closing Remarks📺 More from William Pernik: For more insightful legal discussions and practical advice, subscribe to his other channel — Stay Out of Trouble Tuesday — where William shares real-world tips to help you navigate life’s legal challenges.⚖ Need Legal Help? Law Offices of William V. Pernik specializes in criminal defense, drug-related cases, and mental health advocacy. Whether you’re facing drug charges, mental health-related cases, or other criminal matters, William’s team is committed to protecting your future with a holistic, client-centered approach.







